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Obrien Xp · Sep 29, 2009, 02:36 AM // 02:36

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Originally Posted by Daesu

If ANet needs to continue to support customers for GW1, then they should allocate resources to make more GW1 expansions even after GW2.

I dont think every single player in GW1 intends to move to GW2. ANet should also look out for the interest of such players.

GW1 and GW2 are two different games and they would never be the same. Why not continue to support both franchise?

Here's what I believe, though I don't think expansions but more like large updates (Sorrows Furnace-ish). Perhaps increase the GW1 live team to around 10 people?

Bob Slydell · Sep 29, 2009, 03:16 AM // 03:16

I voted yes. Why?

http://everquest.station.sony.com/everquest.vm

Troll around there and you'll see that a game from 1999 still got expansions after a sequel game in 2004 was made. Nothing more needs to be explained.

There's no reason to abandon such a beautiful game that is Guildwars, which obviously beats the ever loving hell out of EQ1 and EQ2.

QueenofDeath · Sep 29, 2009, 03:32 AM // 03:32

If they had nerfed SF a year and a half ago I might have thought GW1 would survive. But, they have ruined the economy and nothing has any value anymore letting everyone with a sin just easily farm in invinsible mode. So it deservies to die out when GW2 comes along.

in reply to Chrisworld. The thing about EQ is it continues to evolve which is why it's called EVERquest. Guild Wars doesn't have that type of evolvement. All GW has is stupid silly childish titles. Had Guild Wars had powermode, unlimited AA points to ADVANCE your character I'd be all for it surviving. But, that is GW biggest fault is it has no evolvement or advancement of character. I played EQ for 6 years and never saw it all. I've seen it all in GW more times than I care to count. So it's very boring now. Other things about EQ is you won't solo the hardest content in 8 minutes either. lol You wouldn't even get past the first gate of a PLANE. lol You won't solo much of anything once you get past 55 or 60 that isn't 10 levels below you either. It never was meant to be a solo game like GW was either though. Guild wars became more of a childs toy after Nightfall and consumables and power pve only skills.

Arkantos · Sep 29, 2009, 03:42 AM // 03:42

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Originally Posted by Daesu

If ANet needs to continue to support customers for GW1, then they should allocate resources to make more GW1 expansions even after GW2.

I dont think every single player in GW1 intends to move to GW2. ANet should also look out for the interest of such players.

GW1 and GW2 are two different games and they would never be the same. Why not continue to support both franchise?

Why would they support an old game when their new game is going to make them more money? Sure, people are still going to play GW1, but from a business stand point, that's not a big enough reason to release a new expansion. Once GW2 is out, they don't have to do anything for GW1, and I doubt they will do much.

ANet is a business, and GW2 is going to be making more money than GW1 is when it's released.

AlsPals · Sep 29, 2009, 04:48 AM // 04:48

Nope. Aside from nostalgia, GW1 will be unplayable for many. Unless GW2 is absolutely horrible, I dont see myself booting up GW1 unless I need to do something for a benefit in the HOM. Even then, there will be new games, or life pursuits. I will always remember GW as Prophesies, nothing more.

Daesu · Sep 29, 2009, 05:06 AM // 05:06

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Why would they support an old game when their new game is going to make them more money? Sure, people are still going to play GW1, but from a business stand point, that's not a big enough reason to release a new expansion. Once GW2 is out, they don't have to do anything for GW1, and I doubt they will do much.

ANet is a business, and GW2 is going to be making more money than GW1 is when it's released.

At the moment, GW2 being a bigger success than GW1 ever did is still an unproven assumption. Certainly that is the hope, but the future is not set in stone and there is no absolute guarantee of success.

Why so anxious to discard a proven profit-making franchise for a hopeful but yet unproven one? As long as the product line is still profitable, why discard it when they can hire resources to continue milking profits from it? What do they fall back on if GW2 turns out to be a disaster with stagnant growth after a year or 2?

zwei2stein · Sep 29, 2009, 05:50 AM // 05:50

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Why would they support an old game when their new game is going to make them more money? Sure, people are still going to play GW1, but from a business stand point, that's not a big enough reason to release a new expansion. Once GW2 is out, they don't have to do anything for GW1, and I doubt they will do much.

1) Making content for GW1 will be cheaper, but they can sell it for comparable price to customers.

2) GW2 is shiny and everything and will probably not include new graphics card. It is hard to imagine for hardcore gamer, but not everyone is going to pay ~500$ to play $50 game. GW1 on the other hand runs on pretty much anything average.

3) GW2 and GW1 are different enough to appeal to different demographics. It just makes sense to get as much market as possible.

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

1) EQ2 and especially AC2 were failures.

2) The company has some vested interest in supporting the old games because people pay a fee to continue playing them.

3) Anet is aware of the problem of people becoming to attached to their grind and created the HoM to partly ease this process.

4) A lot of guild wars customers just played the campaigns once-few times and quit. Those people aren't really invested in either game and will just play whatever the shiny new thing is, which would probably be GW2 expansions.

1) Yes, MMO sequels generally are failures, people usually invest too much to first game to ever make transition feasible. 3) is solution, but frankly, it only makes people stay longer in GW1 to get pimped in GW2.

2) People are going to pay for expansions, it is not different.

3) Chances are, people are going to rather stay in GW1 still because they miss 5000 points of sweet title and need to farm gold for it. 10$ says that if new expansion came along that made filling all of hom much easier thanks to abundance of imba win buttons and farm spots where gold rains, they would sell tons of copies. Especially after GW2 got released and people new to it would meet ex-GW1s with shinnies they would like to get too.

4) Exactly. People who are not true MMOers will not care if it is GW2 or GW1, they will buy whatever is fun and if they had fun in GW, well they can just buy more of it. That is anets business model: returning customers. And they can buy both GW1 and GW2 even.

notskorn · Sep 29, 2009, 07:33 AM // 07:33

Why would they want to confuse customers like that? Also spreading their focus like that would probably make both games worse.

Aussie Boy · Sep 29, 2009, 08:04 AM // 08:04

I voted YES cause knowing Anet and how they think they will accidentally
leave things out especially the links between 1 and 2 story / HoM etc
so they may have to make an expansion "patch" to tie up lose ends.
However I did read somewhere that we will get one before GW2 to do this very thing
but I'm sure some things might need fixing in an expansion.
Yes I'd be willing to pay for more expansions if that's the way Anet wana play it and keep
the revenue coming in on both games.
I know GW2 will stand on it's own story they say but new players might want to go to the back story and play GW1.

I guess it's really all up to Anet in the end and i feel sorry for all of you that have all this wealth and high end minis and stuff that are worthless pixels anyway.

~ Dan ~ · Sep 29, 2009, 08:18 AM // 08:18

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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove

Nah. I'd love for GW2 to be everything I love in GW and fix everything I don't love. Once it's out, I'm hoping for high-quality, low-downtime events and updates for GW2 to make it a dynamic and great game.

Here's hoping.

+1 for hoping.

SpiritThief · Sep 29, 2009, 08:22 AM // 08:22

By the time GW2 comes out *which you shouldn't even begin to expect until 2011* GW1 will be fully complete. They will have added everything they want to add.

There would be no point. There is already a TON of content in GW1 as it is. There's no way anyone has done everything with every class yet. If you have then gratz you need to try something else.

**cosyfiep** · Sep 29, 2009, 09:30 AM // 09:30

would be nice if they added some real content, but with their past history....I highly doubt we shall see anything similar to a sorrows furnace type update ....perhaps a new quest or two, but anything else, nope .
Think of the 'team' they having working on gw....a tiny group of people who are doing it, what, in their spare time?????
Gw2 is not here yet, and we (they?) are treating this game like its dead----weellll until the next one comes out this one is still kicking, and should be taken care of (just think of what kind of 'updates' you will see for gw2 with the kind of updates they are doing for this one)......dont kill the ONLY thing making ANY money before you have a new game out!

Gun Pierson · Sep 29, 2009, 11:25 AM // 11:25

The poll question should be: Can Anet make more GW1 expansions after GW2 release?

No, because they don't have the recources available. If GW2 is a succes, they will pump the money into the development of a new game. If it fails, Anet will disband. Simple as that.

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Originally Posted by Aussie Boy

i feel sorry for all of you that have all this wealth and high end minis and stuff that are worthless pixels anyway.

In the land of the blind, one-eyed is king...
The process will repeat itself in GW2 so I don't see your point.

Daesu · Sep 29, 2009, 03:14 PM // 15:14

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

The poll question should be: Can Anet make more GW1 expansions after GW2 release?

No, because they don't have the recources available.

Investing through allocation of resources should be on the product line that can generate profits and in this aspect, GW1 is more proven than GW2. What would be worse is to dump all their resources onto GW2 and GW2 turns out to be a failure and the company closes because they put all their eggs into one basket.

Eragon Zarroc · Sep 29, 2009, 04:38 PM // 16:38

no more gw1 expansions, only major content updates. ty

Short · Sep 29, 2009, 04:50 PM // 16:50

It's the funeral now, no point in leaving the coffin lead open for a few more months. It'll just smell.

headlesshobbs · Sep 29, 2009, 06:57 PM // 18:57

GW1 is getting the short end of the stick for the new one. Compare how long EQ lasted and tell me that isn't a problem.

QueenofDeath · Sep 29, 2009, 07:13 PM // 19:13

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but not everyone is going to pay ~500$ to play $50 game.

Never understood why people think you have to have the most expensive video card to play new games. The most expensive video cards are for future games 5 years down the road. A video card costing $99 will be more than enough to play GW2 if not a lesser card. Cards are getting less and less expensive for more and more power for the majority of todays games. GW2 will not be directed at the highend video card gamer either. Publishers and developers are smarter than that and know that they must make the game within the limits of what are in machines TODAY. Thus if you have an 8800gt or gtx or above you will be just fine playing GW2. By the time it comes out those cards will be $49 anyway. I'm running a 9800gtx 1g ram and I can play anything at full settings. It cost me just a bit over $100 when I got it. I think it's already less than that now.

Karate Jesus · Sep 29, 2009, 07:40 PM // 19:40

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Originally Posted by Chrisworld

I voted yes. Why?

http://everquest.station.sony.com/everquest.vm

Troll around there and you'll see that a game from 1999 still got expansions after a sequel game in 2004 was made. Nothing more needs to be explained.

There's no reason to abandon such a beautiful game that is Guildwars, which obviously beats the ever loving hell out of EQ1 and EQ2.

This.

It should be done (because GW1 is amazing); however, there's no way in hell Anet will do it. They barely update the game now. I'd be amazed if we even get content updates after GW2 releases.

Short · Sep 29, 2009, 07:43 PM // 19:43

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

This.

It should be done (because GW1 is amazing); however, there's no way in hell Anet will do it. They barely update the game now. I'd be amazed if we even get content updates after GW2 releases.

Most likely we will just get skill updates. But I'd only ever play for nostalgia if I get GW2. Assuming GW2 is gonna have Charr with guns that is.